All In with Daniel Giordano

Podcast Transcript

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Are you ready to live the all in life? Than welcome to the All In Podcast Show, sharing the defining moments of impact driven entrepreneurs, industry pioneers and transformative leaders as they showcase their defining moments and went all in on their business and found true success. From the early steps in their journey to the moment they truly took their commitment to their life and business to another level, we’ll give you the insight you need to go all in on your dream life. Now, here’s your host, Daniel Giordano.

 

Daniel Giordano  00:37

Welcome to the All In Podcast Show, today I’m excited to share a story and I’m sure there’s like some really cool stuff that I haven’t dug deep into yet. But I’m interested in hearing your journey and how you wound up in this industry. Jason Earle, welcome to the show.

 

Jason Earle  00:52

Thank you, Daniel. It’s been… I’ve been excited to to join you here today.

 

Daniel Giordano  00:57

All right, well, tell me a little bit about your background, like where it you know, like, kind of, you know, from childhood, like, where did you grow up? And then we’ll dive into, you know, connecting the dots here.

 

Jason Earle  01:07

Sure, sure. Well, I grew up in a little town next to Princeton, New Jersey, called Princeton Junction, about an hour outside of New York City, but an hour outside of Philadelphia actually eat the distance between the two. And on a little nonworking farm, where we had a bunch of rescued animals. And it was kind of a little boy’s dream, really, we had horses and goats and rabbits, and dogs, and all sorts of good stuff for five acres, and I spent most of my time outside as a kid. And I didn’t have any siblings that were close in age, I had an older sister nine years older, and some younger siblings that come much, much later. But, but it was it was great. And for the most part, I mean, the when I say that I have, you know, we tend to have very selective memories.

And I am an optimist, so I tend to to reflect positively upon my history. I, you know, the the reality of it was that I spent a lot of time outside as it turns out, because the inside was wasn’t so great. Now, family dynamics were one thing, but also, the house was just it was it was an old farmhouse, and we had the animals use the basement as a litter box, half the time. And it was just a really, in terms of hygiene, my parent, it was low-giene it wasn’t hygiene. And so around the age of four, I suddenly lost a lot of weight, and I was having difficulty breathing. And my parents brought me to the pediatrician who said that you need to take him to Children’s Hospital, which is in Philadelphia, and it’s a very well known respiratory hospital. And they initially diagnosed me with cystic fibrosis, which is a devastating diagnosis, especially then, it was a death sentence back then. But but also because my father had four cousins who died of CF before the age of 14.

So they, they came home and cried for six weeks, at which point they had a second opinion. And they said, “Good news, no cystic fibrosis. He has asthma, and it’s compounded by pneumonia.” And when they tested me for allergies, they did this I don’t know how to do it now. And this is one of my first memories. It was in a straitjacket for toddlers or like a papoose with an open back. And they drew a grid on my back and then did all these skin tests and I tested positive for every single allergen that they could put on me. Grass, wheat, corn, eggs, dogs, cats, cotton, soybeans, and I conveniently grew up on like I said, a small nonworking farm surrounded by grass wheat, corn, eggs, dogs, cats, cotton and soybean. Soybean fields, as far as you can see, corn fields as far as you can see, and those are, by the way, all McMansions now, so things have changed.

But nonetheless, I spent most of my childhood living on inhalers. And again, we’re outside for some reason outside air, you know, didn’t really get to me so much. I had a lot of rashes and things like that but the and  a lot of itchiness but the indoor environment was was was unappealing, and I had no idea really why. And so anyway, long story short, my folks split up when I was about 12, which turned out to be great for everybody. I moved out of that house, all my symptoms went away. And I never thought about it again until many years later. So in the years that followed at around the age of 14, my mom didn’t handle the divorce well, or the, or the or the or the substance behind the divorce.

And she committed suicide when I was almost 14. And that that actually turned me into a devout optimist that actually has has turned out believe it or not, in a very, you would never have ever imagined what that did for me and it changed my life in the most positive ways. It really woke me up to, to our our locus of control over our attitude and how we perceive the world. And she had lost perspective. And I quickly for whatever reason I was I was I happy to be experimenting with psychedelics at the time, quite a bit if you want to call it experimenting. And during that period of what most people will call trauma, I found tremendous insight. And I was free from from the need to be attached to that in I recognize that what she had done was was was something that ultimately was within her purview, you know, it was within her right was her right to do. But what it did was it cemented my perspective that…that, well, first of all, I do believe in retrospect that it was gift, I would do anything to have her back. But at the same time, I wouldn’t try to rewrite history because what that did was it opened up just such, it opened my life in so many ways. 

And so about a year later, I got Lyme disease. And so the combination of losing my mom suddenly and having Lyme disease caused me to miss a lot of school. And I was essentially asked to, quote, slash forced to drop out of high school. They came in one day and kind of pulled me out of class and said, hey, you know, you, you’ve missed too much school so far this year, and you’re gonna have to repeat the this year or, or maybe consider an alternative. And so I, I saw the opportunity because I was not happy with school at all, I saw the opportunity to drop down and call my father in the payphone and said, Hey, I’m ready to drop out. And he just sent me out. And he’s like, Great, I knew this call was gonna come one day. And, and so I said, No listen, here’s the deal. They want me to stick around for the rest of year and then come back again. And I’m not going to do that. So if you come down, sign me out, I’ll go get full time hours at the gas station, or I’m working part time now. And I’ll save money, get my GED and start college a year early. I’ll leapfrog this thing.

My dad’s a little bit of an anarchist. So he supported that. And he was down within 10 minutes, sign me out. And I was walking across the parking lot with him back to the car. And he said, where are you going? I said, I’m going home with you. And he said, like Hell you are you going to work? You’re a man now. Go. So I walked out of the gas station and walked in the main office and I said, hey, Patti, the owner said that I just dropped out of school, I need some more hours. And she goes great, I got another loser here. And I said, no, no, no, let me explain. I told her what I just told you. And she said, Well, in that case, here’s your shift. And she fired the guy that was on the pump that minute. And she handed me his money, she said, you’re gonna finish the rest of this shift. And by the way, you’re on the schedule for tonight. And so that became I became I started a morning shift immediately.

And within a couple of weeks I was working do I was always checking tire pressure. By the way, New Jersey’s the only place where you can’t pump your own gas. So it’s an awkward, it’s like a, it’s like a it’s like a it’s like a non union thing. But it’s a mafia. It’s a gas station mafia. And, and thank goodness for that. Cuz I was checking oil, and replacing windshield wipers and all that good stuff. I was making more money tips than I was with my hourly, whatever it was $6.75 back then. And one guy came in with a flat tire on his BMW and his beautiful wife, big, fat, ugly guy with bad breath. And so he knew he was doing something right was in business. And he said, hey, kid, my tires flatten filled with air. And I said, sure, but it’ll be flat again, if you don’t do anything to fix it. He said, well, if you can, if you can fix it fast, there’s money in it for you. Okay, so, pull over there. I’ll be right over. So walk up, I can see a nail sticking out. So I repaired it in a couple minutes, put some air in it and said five bucks, put some cash in my hand and drove away. And when I looked at my head, it was a $50 bill.

And so he must have made a mistake. He’ll probably come back for that. Not realizing it was just my smart 16 year old mentality. And that’s I didn’t see him for two weeks. I spent the money. And when I when he came back and I said Hey, mister, I don’t know if you remember me or not. He said, yeah, Jason right? I said, yeah. You know, How to Win Friends and Influence People, right? First rule is remember people’s names. He remember my name, the kid who fix his tire. I couldn’t remember his name. And he gave me 50 bucks. So I had some lessons to learn, right? Anyway, so I said, listen, I don’t know if you if if you realize that, you know, I feel like you made a mistake. Like I owe you a favor or something, you know. So you give me give me a $50 bill for for a $5 repair. And he said, I didn’t have 100. I was like, Well, if any I feel like your favor.

He goes kid, I would have been I would have missed a meeting. It was a very good investment. If anything, I owe you a favor. And I said, Well, what do you do for a living? He said, I work on Wall Street. And I said well get me a job. He said, Well, you’ll only get so far with gas work. So call me by 9am tomorrow or don’t ever bother calling me at all. So I went home told my father, and he was supportive that he thought, man, if you don’t call him, you know, you’re gonna you’re gonna regret this. So I called 8:59. I was worried about that 9am thing. So I called at 8:59. He answered and said, what are you doing today? And I said, I’m going to work? He said where? And I said the gas station. And he said wrong answer. So I said, can we do that again? And he said, yeah, he said, what are you doing today? So I said going to work and he said where? And I said what’s your address? And he said 888 Pine Street, 10th floor. Click hangs up on me. And I had to go to the gas station, I had I had other things to do that day.

But I borrowed my I put on my finest pair of jeans and borrowed my father’s… penny loafers from my father and stuff tissues in the toes and literally just put up one of my finest pair of jeans for my wall street interview. I didn’t have a suit you know and I showed up. And he was so surprised that I showed up, so surprised, that he just he said kid, most people don’t show up. He said, 90% of success in life is showing up and I thought that was his quote, it turns out it’s Woody Allen but it’s true. And and you know, he took me under his wing. I was 16, he gave me a shot, he trained me. Turns out I was working for a notorious penny stock firm called Hanover Sterling, which is up there with the Wolf of Wall Street.

He was they were sort of contemporaries. And, and I learned… I learned from what not to do mostly there.  But lo and behold, I unknowingly within a year ended up with my series seven stockbrokers license and accidentally became the youngest licensed stock broker in history of the Guinness World Record. So… So needless to say, that was that was not planned. I was not on the academic track for Wall Street, you know, for making history on Wall Street. And I had a great career I left there, I saw myself behind the curtain and so that was not a good place to be. And I spent nine years on Wall Street in the last two years, I owned my own firm. And that’s when I when dot.com bubble burst and the World Trade Centers went down, I decided that I wanted to do something more meaningful with my life. And I went on walkabout. And while I was away, I put 20 pounds of stuff in a backpack.

I was in Hawaii, and I was reading a story about a guy who had gotten sick from the building from the hotel where he worked on Oahu. It was the Hilton Kalia tower, and had been shut down for the mold remediation at the time. This is 20 years ago, there was not even a mold industry to speak of, or even people really didn’t even talk about this. But he had suddenly developed adult onset asthma, something I never heard of, and sensitivities, all these foods and things that he had never had a problem with before. And I read that story. And I thought, Geez, I wonder if we had a mold problem at Old Trenton Road back at the farmhouse. You know, I never thought about that, you know, I wonder if that was so called my father from a payphone which probably isn’t there anymore, and said, Hey, did we have a mold problem on Old Trenton Road. And he laughed at me and said, Jason, we had mushrooms growing in the basement. Of course we had mold, why do you ask? And he just dismissed it. And I thought, well, I asked, do you think maybe that might have been part of the issue that I had as a kid, you know, like, do you think that might have made me sick.

He’s like, well, certainly didn’t help. And it was just so so funny to me that he was so dismissive, but of course, there’s a mold issue. And of course, that might have made you sick, but they either didn’t have the ability or the or the awareness. And, and by the way, they were also smoked indoors in the car with the windows closed with an asthmatic kid. And that was then that was preparing it, it was not for lack of love. It was just lack of awareness, you know. So anyway, that that, that that light bulb went on very brightly. And what what immediately got me interested was was how buildings impact people’s health. And that’s that that curiosity is what drove me ultimately, to take a job in the mold remediation industry to learn the ropes, and then create an inspection company to protect the consumer from what they were doing, where I we pioneered the use of mold sniffing dogs, which is another story for another podcast.

And that that lever that put us on Good Morning America, and Extreme Makeover Home Edition, and 1000s of newspapers and magazines. And that became 1-800-GOT-MOLD? our Mold Inspection Company. And long story short, that’s been a long time I’ve been doing it since the high end service business, the average inspection is around $1,500. And so for… for years its bothered me that most people can’t afford it. And that I always felt that healthy indoor air should not be cost prohibitive. And families I created this company to help families avoid going through my family did. And yeah, I created something that was out of reach financially. And also there was regionally select selective. And so we have four years ago, put the put, put the wheels in motion, well, it’s been much longer than that, but really double down on our efforts to create a do it yourself test kit that would allow concern consumers to use the same professional devices, but without the aggravation and costs associated with finding and hiring a professional. And so we did that through the Got Mold? Test Kit, which is now available at gotmold.com.

And so for between 150 and 250 bucks, you can now test the air in your house for mold without any of the nonsense so my parents could have afforded that, and probably would have bought that if they had thought their house was making their kids sick. So in any case, that’s what brought me here today, Daniel. Thanks for asking.

 

Daniel Giordano  13:58

And that’s, yeah, that’s awesome. And you covered like, the whole journey there in one breath. Right. So yeah. But you know, just it’s interesting to see how, you know, childhood problem came back into your life, you know, and that was the cause from you’re free to go out and do what you’re doing now, right? And helping people realize that there’s these unknown things, right? That, you know, most people wouldn’t even think of, right? That could be the problem, right?

 

Jason Earle  14:26

Yeah, no, I look I’ve actually made a career, I’ve made a life out of taking the things that were struggles for me, and in learning how to overcome them, create an opportunity to pay that forward. I’m also a recovering alcoholic, which is something that that I have talked very openly about, and I’m very active in the in the alcohol and drug recovery space because it’s something that is a it’s a it’s something where people require the connection and that and that mold, believe it or not, falls into a similar category. People struggle with mold makes their house uninhabitable. It creates so much anxiety and fear, it unseats their, their, their feeling of safety and peace of mind. And so, so my experience has been that you mine your history, for the gold that it is, you know, then that, to me, that’s alchemy, you know, taking the these things that were based on these heavy things like lead and turning them into gold.

 

Daniel Giordano  15:23

Right? That’s good. And so interesting that you bring up the alcohol thing, right? So and I know that that’s a form of sedation, right? For many, especially when you’re an entrepreneur, and you’re stressed, and you feel like you need to unwind and unplug. And, you know, and that’s, you know, I jokingly say this, but there’s some seriousness is like, you know, the reason I stopped drinking, right was simply because when I’m all in, like, it’s why just have one, right, like, you know, it’s just like… So….So reality is, like, you know, it goes both ways here, right? And but really, you know, what, you just touched on there around being able to go and help people overcome these challenges and the things they’re struggling with, right? Well, and I’m just curious now, about what stage you know, where did alcohol play the role in your life? You know, was it….

 

Jason Earle  16:08

Where did it not play a role, really, you know, I, you know, I actually have a really great relationship with alcohol. Now, a lot, like, if you have an amicable, amicable divorce, you know, but it was, it was not like that forever, at that point. So my parents, every one of my family, alcoholics through and through.

And, and so I, at the age of 13, I had already had enough problems drinking, one of my friends almost died during a party that I had brought alcohol to, and I stopped drinking at 13. That was my first last day. And, and, and I and I, then I went to Wall Street, and, and I was quickly introduced to lots of different, you know, accelerated mind altering substances of every certain time in great volumes. And, and nobody said no to them and it’s for me to fit in was very, was very clear. So I was able to meter it, keep it under control in until I was about 20/21. And then, then it started accelerating again. And I started having problems, but I was making a lot of money. You know, I mean, when you’re in your 20s, you’re making 100 grand a month, you know, you’ve got covered that you feel pretty empowered, and you can throw money at problems, and these things hide a lot of sins. And, and I continued to have all the issues, I do lines everywhere, had a DUI my 20s, that was I that I didn’t think it was real, you know, in other words, it was, I was sleeping in the car. So I invalidated that all these excuses to come up with all that stuff. And then it continued to get worse and worse, and eventually got to the point where I was, I was physically dependent. I was unable to, I discovered the morning drink, which is, which was medicinal at the time. And I had no idea that what that was really doing and it took me years of of false of broken promises to myself, and others, that ultimately, I was able to put down alcohol for finally about four years ago.

And, and it’s been the single most powerful thing that’s ever happened to me. And I look back at that alcohol with gratitude. It humbled me, you know, when they say it brings you to your knees, I never realized that brings you to your knees. Well, maybe, maybe it’ll teach you how to pray. You know, for me, I didn’t realize that, that metaphor that what that term really meant for me, but it brought me to my knees, and it and it helped me. Fortunately, in the years that have followed my I was able to dedicate all this energy towards a cause where I help every, you know, doing well, by doing good. I also have two little boys in diapers now totally sober babies, which is the most wonderful thing ever. And I broke a cycle. You know, and I intend to keep it broken. And so yeah, it has been it was an important important part of the story to accelerate my wisdom. 

 

Daniel Giordano  19:01

Right. 

 

Jason Earle  19:02

Right. 

 

Daniel Giordano  19:03

That’s and that’s good. Because I think, you know, people listening to this, you know, sometimes, you know, they may look at the success and the things that you’ve done as an entrepreneur, right, and, you know, maybe even causes that you support, right. But a lot of times people don’t talk about the behind the scenes, you know, with the sedation, with alcohol, drugs, and the things that, that we go through that we, you know, may not share openly, right. And I think a lot of times, like we were talking about this earlier was, you know, sometimes people just don’t open up and share the truth, right.

Like, look, it’s not like this journey, where it’s like, you know, everything’s roses and peaches and rainbows, right? There’s gonna be challenges, right? And unfortunately, you know, in our culture today, it’s easy to sedate with things, right, to try and avoid that pain, right? Or think we’re helping by like, I’m just, you know, this is helping me just chill for a while, right? And the reality is, it’s helping it’s covering a problem, right?

 

Jason Earle  19:56

Yes, yes, yes. Yes. I I’m reminded of a quote, which is easy choices, hard life, hard choices, easy life. And I think that that our society, you know, again, having two boys and diapers, I look at how they’ve got a comfortable life my life was, was was challenging. They won, you know, I have consistently taken the harder road, intentionally or preferentially. And, and that’s been something that’s kind of like my Hallmark because I always take the harder road. And I don’t know if that’s because of masochism or because… because… I…. because I prefer maybe to not being in crowded places.

I don’t know what it is. But But that’s, but that’s been the case. And I look back at that now, I mean, even the idea of, you know, we live in a society where now we have such things are so comfortable for us that in order for us to truly be prepared for just any difficulty, you have to consciously put yourself in, in pain, for example, cold water therapy, or saunaing and or whatever they…. or… or mount… You have to do things recreationally to create pain, because we don’t have any natural sources of fear or pain that are proportionally important enough to cause the kind of fear response we all experience, right, we all have this fear that we’re going to die and be kicked out of the clan.

And you know, we get kicked out of the clan and die because of a faux pas in email or something like that. Meanwhile, that fear is more appropriate for a saber toothed tiger chasing you. You know, like we just don’t have that. So we have to consciously put ourselves in harms way or in the perception of harms way in order for us to calibrate for a life where we’re just so so it things are so easy if you’re honest with yourself compared to having to go out there and and get your food, right? Not from from something other than a grocery store. So I don’t know, I just I feel like that we have we have to as a society get a good grip on that because the reality is, is that no… growth and comfort are mutually exclusive. Growth and comfort do not coexist.

They don’t. And I can show you how that how I every plant the seed that germinates goes against gravity, right? And if you grow if you pick that same seed and you grow it in a greenhouse with no wind, and this perfect climate, and then you open up the windows and a wind blows through it falls right over and it dies. You take that same seed, grow it on a cliffside and it grows into this gnarly, tough, weathered, hardy plant that deals with just about anything, same DNA. Same DNA, right? So so…

 

Daniel Giordano  22:45

Yeah. So… so we’ll get back to the mold stuff here, right. So I’m just curious, right? And now that you’ve been doing this for a while, what are some common things that you see, because I because I can imagine, like somebody that was going through what you went through as a youngster, right, as a kid, not parents not knowing what the problem was, right? You’re driven to help people, you know, not have the same issues, right? Well, what percentage of people would you say, you know, have this experience where something is contaminating their air? And their houses? I’m just curious here.

 

Jason Earle  23:19

Okay. Well, there’s there’s there’s a there’s a there’s a big question there, because there’s a big issue there that no one talks about, which is that smoking is down by something like 60% in the United States… from 60% of the population down to like 13% since 1965. But But morbidity associated with respiratory ailments is up 30% since 1965, so something’s going on where we’re doing less to harm our lungs, but in terms of obvious visual stuff, but we’re somehow or another, we’re getting sicker. Well, we spend 90% of our time indoors. And that’s a that that in and of itself is something that most people don’t realize we’re so worried about the outdoor environment, but we spend very little time worrying about the indoor environment, it because we tend to be far sighted humans tend to not worry about things that are right underneath their nose, they tend to worry about things that are a little bit further away.

And, you know, air is one of those things that you forget about, such that I can will hurt this, how many times you breathe a day? 21,000 times! 21,000 breaths and how many of those are conscious? And so but if you don’t have air for three minutes, you’re a goner, right? So we take these things through, it’s this law of familiarity, whatever you’re exposed to long enough, eventually we’ll take it for granted, right? And so my whole job here is to raise awareness about this issue. And so what we tend to do is we tend to focus on areas where people are already very aware of this, and I bring this around for a reason. So if you will look at the number of people that are affected by this. I would argue that the 300 some some odd a million Americans, about 100 million are affected on an annual basis by mold, either through health issues, or property damage or both. And so when it comes to health issues, about 24.6 million Americans have asthma, big chunk, about 10 million of those are kids. And that number is of 100% in the last 10 years. EPA Berkeley Labs said about 24% of those cases are mold and dampness related, it’s a big number.

37 million Americans have chronic sinusitis, according to a 1999 Mayo Clinic study, 97% of those cases are mold related. So that’s the biggest, that’s the most prevalent long term respiratory illness in America and you’re talking about 11% of the population. And then there’s all sorts of interesting stuff that’s on the periphery that people don’t think we’re talking about much. But Brown University did a study concluded that there’s a direct correlation between mold and dampness indoors and depression. And that’s fascinating because people don’t talk much about that. But but the reality is the musty odor has been has been linked to neurological issues. In fact, exposure to the musty issue, musty smell as a child doubles your asthma risk later on in life. And it’s the number two predictor of childhood asthma behind maternal smoking, so much just exposure to the musty smell. The thing about modern buildings is that they’re built so tight for energy efficiency.

And recently, well, I’d say recently, you know, and since since since we outsource every single manufacturer, everything to China, all of our stuff is loaded with chemicals. So in addition to moisture issues that get in and cause problems and cause mold, and by the way, a mold problem is a moisture problem. So just like everyone’s worried about mold, but it’s always a moisture problem. People worry about killing the mold, they’re worried about doing all sorts of things to the mold, but they should really just be worried about fixing the water problem, whatever the moisture problem is first. We can talk about, you know what to do with the more mold problem more later. But the bottom line is, it’s a pervasive issue. And it’s something that we’re constantly being exposed to, and we’re re breathing that same air.

And I would argue that what’s happening here with with the increases in all sorts of cancer rates, and autoimmune diseases, and all these things, is that we’re living in a chemical soup inside these very tightly sealed homes. And mold just being one of the primary causes as this is the smelling thing that people that’s why people call us, but most of the time when we’re in there helping people, we’re looking at more holistically in terms of the chemicals and the mold.

 

Daniel Giordano  27:07

Yeah, it’s good stuff. So I have a feeling we could do like a whole three day seminar on this, right? 

 

Jason Earle  27:12

For sure. For sure. 

 

Daniel Giordano  27:13

Yeah. So I guess, you know, at this point, as we get ready to wind down what what would be some things that you would say would be the common, you know, when somebody comes and finds out about your company, like, and they’re struggling with these things? Is there is there like a common like, 1 2 3 step, you know, that you would take someone through? That may be, you know, trying to uncover like, you know, should I get a mold test, right? 

 

Jason Earle  27:37

Yep. That’s it. So we tend to break it down into if you see something, smell something, or feel something, do something. So if you see something that would be any signs of moisture issues, any signs of staining, blistering pain, you know, any any indication, any visual indication, any discoloration that might be speckled or spotted, that can be mold growth are the beginning of mold growth.

If you smell it, the musty smell is a dead giveaway. Because mold can grow inside walls, the smell still comes through. And so you that smell is with great consistency, a very powerful indicator of, of active mold growth. And so again, you’re looking for the mold, you’re looking for the moisture, and then if you feel it, so that would be anybody who’s experiencing symptoms. And what I mean by that is, people tend to have upper respiratory reactions, I tend to have like dermal or skin reaction, itchy eyes, things like that. Other people tend to have things like headaches, nausea, dizziness, fatigue, difficulty concentrating, or cognitive stuff. And but people who have a mold problem tend to know that they do, or at least someone in the house tends to know and so what I always say is you should trust your intuition. Because the building is an extension of your immune system.

It really is, it’s an exoskin and exoskeleton if you think about it, and I encourage people to develop a more intimate relationship with the buildings that they live in. They depend on the building to survive but you also are the building’s immune system it’s your job to take care of that building so it takes care of you. It’s a symbiotic relationship if you will, but I always say you know trust your intuition but but get the facts. So in other words, if you’re concerned about well get you should get yourself some humidity gauges. You should also consider if you’re concerned about a mold problem currently shoot yourself a test kit we make a test that you can take a look at gotmold.com and you also there’s a great product called by by company called home air check that we recommend for VOCs, for chemicals, but this is building science not building superstition, right?

So you know, this is this is this is this is a well, it’s very confusing to the consumer, but at the same time it’s theres… this is the kind of thing where you want to get the facts and and if you want to get answers to this you go to gotmold.com we’ve got a robust learning center and I would highly recommend that if you have questions about this don’t go to Facebook. That you know that that’s where you don’t want to get answers to this because they tend to silo all the the worst stories and all, all the all the scariest stories, but what we did for your, for your, for your people, for your for your listeners was, in order to help any any of your listeners who might be concerned about a mold problem is we put together a welcome page at gotmold.com.

It’s actually slash all in for your podcast at gotmold.com/allin. And there we have a discount code, which is allin10 for 10% discount off with any of our test kits, and then also an ebook called How to Find Mold, which answers a lot of the questions about, you know, if you do see it, smell it or feel it, what you would do, including extensive inspection checklists and things like that.

 

Daniel Giordano  30:37

Awesome. So one, you know, I definitely appreciate you taking the time to share your message right in, in an industry that like a lot of people would think like, you know, what are we gonna talk about with mold and a podcast, right? And, and I think like, you know, when you listen to the story behind this as entrepreneurs, business owners, as you know, human beings, right? We all have different struggles and things we experience throughout our lives and what you’re doing to impact people based on your childhood experience, right? Is helping others, you know, and having an impact on the world, you know, to help people live healthier lives, and hopefully longer lives, right?

Without ailments, right? So it’s, it’s fun to see that because I never know where these are gonna go, right? And there was, it was just really fun to hear your story, especially the alcohol thing, if you’re somebody that struggling with alcohol, you know, and you know, that, like, I’ve been there personally, and I know when, you know, I’ve been off the rails and like, you know, I need to stop this, this is not supporting me, right? Same thing you experience is like, you know, and you get to a point where enough is enough, there’s got to be a way to, you know, to get out of this cycle, right and break that chain, right? So and now that you’re raising kids, you get to set that example, you know, for the two young ones, right? As they’re growing up to see, you know, like, it doesn’t have to be that way. Right. So, thank you for being here. Any last? Any last words? parting words?

 

Jason Earle  31:59

No, Daniel, just thank you for having me. 

 

Daniel Giordano  32:01

Okay, well, I appreciate you being here and sharing your message and I look forward to continued success and impact.

 

Jason Earle  32:08

Likewise, thank you.

 

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